Thank you very much!! S on the base of bottles …………………. Thanks to Mark Newton for this info. Many such bottles with an initial on the base were purposely made with no glass manufacturer identification. Mark is seen mostly on the lower heel area on soda and beer bottles. The number usually precedes the letter, but in some cases the order may be reversed. These marks were used by ABCO at least during the period, and evidence from bottle collectors indicate these date code markings may have been used as early as when American Bottle Company was incorporated , all the way up to at least in some cases. S in a circle………………. Swindell Bros, Baltimore, Maryland Reportedly used on machine-made bottles after c.
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Well, I was wrong. When Alan says a marble is rare, it is rare, no further discussion. But when he goes on to say the following, you can be sure you may never see a marble like this again: Folks who follow my auctions know I am not one for hyperbole, but I can safely and confidently say that this is the rarest marble I have ever offered, possibly a truly unique example. It looks great in the photos but having it in hand is a mind-blowing experience!
Do the mold seams disappear in the neck, but the bottle lacks a pontil mark? Blown-in-mold bottles without pontil marks date circa s to s. Post Bottles. Do the mold seams go all the way from the base to the lip? This is a machine-made bottle and dates after Look for a “suction” scar on the base. This will be shallower, wider and more perfectly circular than a pontil mark.
Mouth-blown Bottle Dating Mouth-blown utilitarian bottles have several important diagnostic characteristics which can be helpful for dating. The primary features common to most mouth-blown bottles are addressed by Questions 4 through 7 which are listed below. Click the question link to jump directly to that question though it is highly recommended that users run through questions 4 through 7 consecutively since the answers for some lead directly to other questions: Does the base of the bottle have some type of pontil scar or mark?
Does the bottle finish “lip” have an applied finish, tooled finish, or a finish that does not fit either of these categories or you do not know? Does the bottle have some type of mold seam or seams within the extreme outside edges of the base? Does the bottle have embossed or labeled contents or volume capacity information? Other datable diagnostic features and bottle type specific date ranges for the listed diagnostic features are discussed in more depth within other portions of this website.
Lets begin with Question 4 right below Iron or “improved” pontil mark on a “cathedral” pepper sauce bottle ca. Sand pontil scar on a “Rickett’s Patent” liquor bottle English – This particular bottle has an dated blob seal making the dating relatively precise. Pontil marks come in several different stylistic types with variation within the different styles.
A pontil scar or mark is a very useful mid th century diagnostic dating characteristic.
decanters & drinking-glasses (dating notes)
The bottles used for illustration are a small but diverse assortment designed to give users guidance on how to work a bottle through the dating information to answer the Homepage’s primary question 1 – What is the age of the bottle? The example bottles are tracked though the Bottle Dating page questions in that pages directed sequence. Hyperlinks in green to the specific dating questions on the Bottle Dating page are included so that a user can reference the necessary portions of that page.
Each of the green question hyperlinks result in a pop-up page showing the particular question on the Dating Page; once read it should be deleted to avoid clutter. To return from other accessed hyperlinks, use the back arrow on your browser. If a user needs to refresh themselves on the terminology used to describe the various parts of the bottle, click on Bottle Morphology to view a pop-up page of physical bottle feature definitions.
Bottle Dating Guide. Open pontil which is most likely to date from or earlier. Iron pontil which usually dates around s to Smooth base from to current. Click on the picture to see the larger image: Before Whittle Marks- before
The bottles used for illustration are a small but diverse assortment designed to give users guidance on how to work a bottle through the dating information to answer the Homepage’s primary question 1 – What is the age of the bottle? The example bottles are tracked though the Bottle Dating page questions in that pages directed sequence.
Hyperlinks in green to the specific dating questions on the Bottle Dating page are included so that a user can reference the necessary portions of that page. Each of the green question hyperlinks result in a pop-up page showing the particular question on the Dating Page; once read it should be deleted to avoid clutter. To return from other accessed hyperlinks, use the back arrow on your browser.
If a user needs to refresh themselves on the terminology used to describe the various parts of the bottle, click on Bottle Morphology to view a pop-up page of physical bottle feature definitions. Once the likely bottle age or date range is determined, some examples of other places to look for more information is provided. Lets get started with the first bottle which is relatively easy to date
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The development of the process was likely initiated as glass blowers experimented with molds as a way of producing special surface effects on their vessels. For instance, with pattern molding, the parison was initially shaped inside a mold that had been sculpted with diamonds, facets, circles, etc.. The mold would impart these designs to the body of the vessel. Typically the process was completed by removing the parison from the mold and blowing and spinning it in an off-hand fashion until the desired shape and size were achieved.
A pontil scar or mark is a very useful midth century diagnostic dating characteristic. There are several different type pontil marks, all of which are a mark or scar on the bottle base left by a type of pontil rod.
The picture below at the left shows an iron pontil on the base jof a historical flask circa The middle picture shows an open pontil on the base of a cylindrical medicine bottle. The third picture shows the base of a milk bottle from just after the trun of the century. The disk-like mark is sometimes confused with a pontil. Close up of iron pontil Close up of an open pontil milk base for comparison A Close Look at the Owens Ring Beginning collectors often confuse an Owen’s ring with a pontil mark and it is easy to see why this happens.
The pictures below are from two early machine made medicine bottles. I have put up pictures of the lips so that the readers can see how they mold goes all the way over the top as shown below. Notice how sharp and fine the mold seam line is. This is different than an older hand tooled, hand blown bottle. The pressure from the automatic machine was strong and the molds fit tight leaving only a very thin line. In the neck on the right notice how just below the collar the mold seam goes complete around the neck.
This was the manner in which the early Owens bottles were blown. But the process was completed in a single blow. Both of these medicine bottles look much like their earlier counterparts.
Owens-Illinois Glass Company
Base codes on Owens-Illinois amber glass handled jug, or date code, made at factory B was jug style number. See list of 19 currently operating glass container plants in North America, farther down on this page. Several trademarks have been used over the years by Owens-Illinois. Most of the pics show the first and most widely recognized mark used beginning in
The dating and identification of glassware is not always an easy task. Most glassware was never labeled or stamped with a manufacturer’s mark and it requires experience and sometimes luck to identify when and where a piece of glass was made.
These bottles come in a wide variety of styles and are frequently pontiled. In many cases the pontil belies their true age. The early drugstore storage bottles were made of flint glass often with wide mouths with a thin bead of a lip. These early wide mouth varieties commonly found with their original tin lids rarely had an indented panel lack the label under glass. In many cases labels were added at a later time. The vast majority of these bottles date from to the turn of the century.
Determining the Value of Old Bottles
Because they are almost years old, they are very collectible. Every collector should own a few of these as study pieces. I have also included some other Chinese paperweights that are newer or uniquely Chinese. The history of the early Chinese paperweights is mostly anecdotal as no written records have been discovered. The results are interesting and sometimes confused with the originals by inexperienced collectors.
The earliest pictures of these paperweights appeared in the book American Glass Paperweights by Francis Edgar Smith published in
How to Date Antique Glass Bottles By John Peterson ; Updated April 12, Dating antique bottles requires knowledge of the evolution of bottle technology and the ability to research manufacturers and bottling companies. Although glass bottles have been made for a few thousand years, it was not until the 19th century that bottle use became common, coinciding with the industrial revolution. By the mid th century, embossed lettering and marking on bottle bodies and bases, denoting manufacturers and products, made more precise dating possible.
In addition to technology, products and manufacturers, certain types of glass colors will also aid in dating. Asymmetry is an indication of a hand-blown bottle. Look for mold seams. The earliest bottles were hand-blown by a glassblower with a blowpipe and lack seams. Is the bottle highly symmetrical, but lacking mold seams?
This type of bottle was probably dip-molded and dates after circa Is the base indented with an irregular to round pontil scar? This, and no mold seams, is another indication of a hand-blown bottle.
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By Marye Audet If you can your own fruits and vegetables, you might be surprised to find that the value of old canning jars is often significant. If you are using the ones your grandmother left you, that jar of spiced peaches might be worth more than you think. Collecting canning jars got its start in the s with a renewed interest in canning and other domestic arts. Why It’s Sometimes Called a Mason Jar While canning jars have been around for a long time, it wasn’t until that the screw-on lid was created.
A pontil mark is a variably sized and type of scar left on the base of a bottle by a pontil rod. A typical pontil rod or “punte” was a long ( feet) iron rod which was securely attached to .
Each of the pictured bottles has a relatively short description and explanation including estimated dates or date ranges for that type bottle and links to other view pictures of the bottle. Additional links to images of similar bottles are also frequently included. The array of references used to support the conclusions and estimates found here – including the listed dating ranges – are noted. Additional information and estimates are based on the empirical observations of the author over 50 years of experience; this is often but not always noted.
Various terminology is used in the descriptions that may be unfamiliar if you have not studied other pages on this site. If a term is unfamiliar, first check the Bottle Glossary page for an explanation or definition. As an alternative, one can do a search of this website. Figured Flasks Figured flasks is a generic name for the large class of liquor flasks primarily produced between and Due to their esthetic and decorative nature, these flasks were infrequently discarded unless broken so many survived to the present day.
Figured flasks also include c alabash bottles example below , which are covered separately here because of their distinctive shape, and some flasks that fit the form description but are just embossed with lettering, i.
Glass Bottle Marks – 5
Base codes on Owens-Illinois amber glass handled jug, or date code, made at factory B was jug style number. See list of 19 currently operating glass container plants in North America, farther down on this page.
A pontil mark is a variable size and type of scar or roughage left on the base of a bottle by a pontil rod. A typical pontil rod (aka ponty, punty or punte) was a long ( feet) rod which was securely attached to the base of the just blown hot bottle (Trowbridge ).
Known examples include the following figurines: All Paperweight marbles are very rare. The base glass is typically clear, though colored glass examples occur, yet only extremely rarely. These are harder to find than regular paperweight marbles and in fact are among the most valuable of all hand made marbles. Millefiori Paperweight Marble SLAGS Though slags are traditionally thought of as mostly machine made types, most of the earliest “transitional” marbles, that is to say those made partially by hand and partially by machine, as well as some hand made marbles, are slag-types.
Hand Made Slags Hand made slags can either be those drawn off a cane two pontil examples or formed by the single gather method single pontil examples. The latter should not be confused with Transitional Slags, which also have single pontils. Most hand made Slags with two pontils are composed of black or purple glass mixed with white. Single pontil hand made Slags differ from most other slag-type marbles.
First, they employ different colors, not the dark colors often found in early Slags but lighter ones, with green being most prevalent. These base colors are more translucent than transparent. Furthermore, rather than having white as the secondary color, they usually contain yellow swirls or rarely another color, such as purple. Such slags appear to be known mostly from examples excavated at German glassworks sites.
Pontil Marks or Scars Click on the following links to move directly to the specific pontil scar discussions on this page: A typical pontil rod aka ponty, punty or punte was a long feet rod which was securely attached to the base of the just blown hot bottle Trowbridge A pontil rod held the bottle during the steps in the bottle blowing process where the blowpipe is removed cracked-off from the bottle and that break-off point is “finished”, i.
Click empontilling and cracking off to see an illustration of these processes.
Click on any thumbnail for a large image I think that when I started mixing blackberry wine with moonshine is when “the mule threw Luther”!!! After 40 years, we are now on-line, at shows, and open by appointment only. These animals got caught in the snow storm, but still had to find something to eat! Thanks to our good buddy, Charlie, out in Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming for some outstanding wildlife photographs. It is amazing to me how many Civil War and history enthusiasts also love the wildlife and outdoors.
I personally found some of these photographs near jaw-dropping!!! We are headed to the mountain today, and hopefully there will be some cool new trail cam pictures to share!! For the past couple of months, our neighbors and ourselves have been hearing the cry of an unusual animal. About a month ago, I caught sight of what appeared to be a large cat moving through the woods.
Several weeks ago we installed a game cam to be able to see what type animals were passing. One of the locations of the game camera was where several roads and paths came together. At this location, we saw more different type animals than any other location of the camera.